In all our Western so called free and democratic countries, politicians of mainstream parties seem to find immigration a bit of a taboo subject - but it is a subject that has an effect on our societies and about which many people have an opinion - and with the thought that this a forum which includes debate, is why I have started a thread on this subject.


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Forgive the double post but to express my own opinion -
I live on the edge of London and am a delivery driver working mostly in the densly populated western suburbs around Heathrow Airport where I am meeting people from a great many ethnic backgrounds.
For the great majority, most that I meet are simply just people wanting somewhere to live and make an earning and while my preference might be that Britain was not such a crowded place, when one considers that many immigrants come from Third World countries, one can understand them wanting a slice of our comparitively affluent lifestyle.
There are now those who, while of different ethnic origin, are sometimes of several generations born here, so I believe it is a foolishness to think that they are now ever just going to go away.
The reality is that in the long term, somehow, we have no choice but to learn how to live together.


However, what I do have little regard for are those few who bring with them extreme ideas and who would seek to radically change our society against the wish of the majority, even to the extent of using violence.

Like Squirrels, Mice, Rabbits, and other similar …world people will ‘never’ mix.
The only thing is to keep them from intruding on each other.

both mine and my husband's family were all from Ireland..some went to America and some came to Scotland..there will always be people who move from one country to another but as said..there's no need for the extreme that goes with some of them but saying that with family from Ireland and growing up in the west coast of Scotland..we have our own extremes to do with religion here ..wherever you go they'll be people trying to change things to their own liking until there is one way of life that we all follow ..but who would want that

Yuh. You said the key word there, Ember ….‘religion’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMGeh6dN7co&feature=related

I have no objection to any races living in any countries but I do object to the fact that a lot of imigrants don't bother to learn the language of the "host" country and they try to change the way things are done.IMO if you go to live in another country you should learn the language AND live by that countries rules,not exspect specail schools,swimming bathes to be closed one afternoon a week to let muslim ladies swim as they are not allowed to be seen undressed by men.Have your own religion by all means but don't try to enforce it on others.

Wow, hot topic!

I think I have a different view to most people. This isn't a new thing its been going on for 100's of years. The immigration problem is all our own fault, so we really can't moan about it. We did it to ourselves!

A couple of hundred years ago we British would sail around the world and invade countries at will to add them to our Empire. We made them speak English, we told them to change to our religion and we tried to make them act and live like British. Then we'd bring them here to work for us!
After both world wars we needed more workers, so we brought them in from the British Colonies to live and work here the British way!

Then in the 70's we joined the EU and opened our doors ro Europe, bringing more people here. Europe grows and with our doors still wide open even more immigrants arrive.
Then we moan about them and we try to lock the doors, but this is all far too late.

The immigrants didn't cause the problem, we did!

What we need to do now is accept each other and get along with life together. That's the only way forward!

Well, that's my opinion.

I totally agree Mars we did start it but it isn't this generation.As you say it was 100's of years ago.We ,Britain..brought slaves..but it wasn't this generation.So do we really have to pay for what our fore fathers did.Do the present day Germans pay for what Hitler did..no and they shouldn't either.
In an ideal world we should all live as one...but that is never going to happen.I am in no way racist but I do still say live by your host countries rules.Where I live we have a lot of muslims,they have a right to live as do everyone but please don't walk down the street where I live and look at me like I'm nothing.My family have lived here for generations so should I not get treated with respect.A hello would surfice.